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views of Conspiracy Nation. It merely reports what was said
elsewhere.]

SHERMAN SKOLNICK INTERVIEW -- THE JOLIET CONNECTION

Sherman Skolnick was interviewed on *Radio Free America*
(Shortwave, 5.065 MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on October 20, 1994.
Mr. Skolnick is a veteran investigative reporter from Chicago and
founder of the "Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts" in
that city. Following is my transcription of that interview.
Host/Interviewer is Tom Valentine.

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TOM VALENTINE:
Hello, everybody! Welcome back, to *Radio Free America*.

In this hour, we are going to reach up to Chicago and bring back
an old friend and a fellow who's been a guest on this show
several times. He is the founder and director of the Committee to
Clean Up the Courts, in Chicago. A non-establishment institution,
a citizens' group, if you please, that has a lot of feathers in
their war bonnet. They have, they've done some notable things.
The most notable probably being the arrest and jailing of the
former Governor and a former federal judge of Illinois, who ended
up dying in jail, Otto Kerner.

And that fellow, of course, is Sherman Skolnick. And Sherman,
welcome back to *Radio Free America*.


SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Welcome, Tom, and I'm pleased to be on with your listeners again.
And I hope they find this very interesting. I've got... We're
going to discuss a very timely subject.


VALENTINE:
All right. Go ahead. I'm gonna let you cut loose.


SKOLNICK:
On October 18th, Tuesday, the *Wall Street Journal* finally ran a
story about things that some of us have known about, the Mena
cover-up. That is, the dope and money that was going through the
Mena, Arkansas airport and made Arkansas awash with cash.

What the *Wall Street Journal* is in a position to know is that
the dope transit point, which *was* in western Arkansas, in a
forest -- that is, the Mena, Arkansas airport -- has been
transferred to just south of Chicago. And due to a series of
situations which I will do my best to outline, as briefly
summarize as I can, it is operating now, south of Chicago, in
Joliet!

They're using similar apparatuses to "wash" the dope money that's
coming in: they're using a local development company; they're
using various brokers and banks to "wash" the large sums of
money.

Now involved in the situation was a building in Joliet where a
lot of federal loan money, loan applications, were kept. And it
was part of the apparatus of "washing" the dope money.

But before I get into that, let me just tell briefly how it came
in. It came in by barge, up the waterway from New Orleans to the
Des Plaines River basin, past a place called Moose Island. And
we'll get back to that Moose Island connection in a moment.

Also, airplanes came in with the dope (protected from
interference by law enforcement people, by the way). Airplanes
came into the Joliet Municipal Airport, among others.

Now what happened was, early in the '80s, a secret unit of the
U.S. Treasury Department began an investigation of this and
related matters. However, their investigation was ordered stopped
by one of the espionage agencies, either the CIA or the NSA, on
reasons of (quote) "national security" (unquote). Because what
was being brought in, in large quantities, flooding in through
Joliet and then being distributed across the country, was a
superior narcotic called "China White". It comes from the Laos,
Burma, Thailand, "Golden Triangle" connection. And the supposed
explanation by the espionage agencies was that high-level members
of the Chinese secret police are operating in the United States
as scientists and technicians, and that the espionage agencies
have got to stop the Treasury from interfering and investigating
this because, for reasons of national security, they want to keep
track of these people -- even though they're bringing in dope!

Now what happened...


VALENTINE:
That sounds pretty hokey. You mean the Treasury bought it?


SKOLNICK:
Uh, no. No, they continued to investigate, and what happened was,
they got into a terrible crunch with these other federal
espionage agencies. What happened was, nobody in the media would
aid them. So they turned over their entire office of records, an
entire truckload, to an independent investigation group.

I became aware of all this; I made a summary of what is in the
records. And I went and found, I went and demanded a meeting.


VALENTINE:
O.K. Hold on right there, Sherman. We'll be back. You got the...
You found out about this and demanded a meeting. My guest is
Sherman Skolnick. The dope point of America. I'll be right back.
I'm Tom Valentine, *Radio Free America*.

[...commercial break...]

We are back, live. It's *Radio Free America*. And I'm talking
with Sherman Skolnick. We're talking now about a major
investigation in our so-called "war on drugs". Evidently, the
"war on drugs" takes time out for official drug dealing and drug
money laundering. But if it's unofficial, well then they'll make
war on it.

Go ahead, Sherman. You were tellin' us how a group in Chicago
came about this truckload of documents.


SKOLNICK:
O.K. On October 6th of this year, I demanded a meeting with the
highest federal official in this part of the country that I could
find. I ended up meeting with Mark Prosperi(sp?), chief of the
organized crime/drug enforcement task force, together with the
secretary of the U.S. attorney in this district -- that is, the
secretary to the chief federal prosecutor here.

I met with them for 35 minutes and I told them that this drug
racketeering operation involved 4 federal judges, 2 congressmen,
the former Governor, Jim Thompson, and people connected with the
Clinton White House. After 35 minutes of summarizing this, he
unceremoniously stood up, told me he's not interested, and in so
many words told me to mind my own business. And he left me there
in the office and walked out the door.

Now what we know from these records is, namely, that one of those
that facilitated it was a fellow named Robert Teezak(sp?), who
was a crony of George Herbert Walker Bush, the federal judges,
Jim Thompson, and *others*.

And the records that relate to this, of the "washing" of the
money, were kept in a building in Joliet called the Private
Industry Council. And in 1987, because local citizens from Joliet
were complaining to the DEA, the Drug Enforcement Agency, about
what they were observing happening, the U.S. attorney here at the
time, Anton R. Valukis(sp?) began a supposed grand jury
investigation. And issued a subpoena returnable on a certain
Monday.

On the Friday preceding that, the building housing all these
federal records was burned down! O.K.? It was burned down by
Robert Teezak. And I will point out what happened, in a moment,
with that.

Now Teezak is a crony of Bush, the former Governor, Anton
Valukis, and others. In Chicago, in the early '80s, the U.S.
attorney here, the chief federal prosecutor, was Dan K. Webb. He
was succeeded by Anton R. Valukis. Both of 'em close cronies of
George Bush. In fact Dan Webb (some may remember) was an
assistant special prosecutor in the Iran-Contra thing, and took
the deposition of Ronald Reagan, and was involved very much in
the Admiral Poindexter case.


VALENTINE:
Isn't he also now a defense team for Rostenkowski?


SKOLNICK:
Yes...


VALENTINE:
All right.


SKOLNICK:
..the same Dan Webb.

Now he was the private attorney for Robert Teezak. And in the
'80s, when Webb was the U.S. attorney, he violated the law by
being, reportedly, the private attorney for Teezak at the same
time that Webb was the U.S. attorney and should have *prosecuted*
somebody!

Now one of the apparatuses that they used -- to facilitate the
arrangement of the dope shipments -- was a company owned by
Teezak, headquartered in Joliet and in the Grand Caymans, called
International Games, Incorporated. They distributed games,
purportedly manufactured in Hong Kong and other places in the
Orient. And Teezak, who lived on Moose Island -- uh, keep that
name in mind. By the way, the building where the records were
kept was called the Moose Building. The Private Industry Council
building was the Moose Building, in Joliet.


VALENTINE:
Is Moose Island right there in the Illinois River, in downtown
Joliet?


SKOLNICK:
I don't know about downtown. It's near a suburb called
Chanahan(sp?).


VALENTINE:
All right.


SKOLNICK:
The one that owns Moose Island is Teezak and his business
partner, an auto dealer, John Bays(sp?).

Now what happened was, the Treasury unit, by continuing to
investigate, caused this grand jury subpoena to be issued by the
U.S. attorney. However when the building with the records that
they sought... And they were, what was in the building were
records that related to federally supported loans -- loans of the
SBA [Small Business Administration], HUD, Comprehensive
Employment Training Act, and so on -- those records were in that
building, and that building was burned down by Teezak.

Now U.S. attorney Valukis, who was a close crony of Teezak and
Bush and others, did not investigate the obstruction of justice.
And that building was burned down to obstruct the grand jury's
subpoena.

Six years went by, and the Treasury unit continued their
investigation. Now they [*not* Treasury unit] needed a fall guy
to try to cover the matter up. So in 1993, suddenly, Robert
Teezak, the crony of all these people, the congressmen and all
that, who -- and by the way: Teezak used to fly his airplane to
Hong Kong, supposedly to arrange shipments of the manufacture of
his games. You know, the International Games, Incorporated.


TOM VALENTINE:
Um-hmm [understands]. All right. That makes sense.


SKOLNICK:
..1993, Teezak suddenly pleads guilty to burning the building
down. O.K.? No trial, no formality. And a federal judge here in
Chicago covered up the matter, and they sent, without much
ceremony and without hardly any mention in the paper, they sent
Teezak away to jail without inquiring into the overall matter of
"China White" and the building.

Now the apparatus that was used is rather complicated. They used
apparatuses, as I said earlier, similar to what was used in
Arkansas to wash the dope money. They used local "development"
councils. They used bonds that were issued. They used... Here
they used three training institutes, supposedly to re-train
people for work, but the fraudulent payroll records ('cause they
didn't really have all those people working) were in the PIC
[Private Industry Council] Building, the...


VALENTINE:
..the building that burned down.


SKOLNICK:
Right.


VALENTINE:
O.K. Hold on. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. We're getting this
story -- he put this together out of absolute records from the
U.S. Treasury Department investigation. And it's all factual. And
once again, we can see our government in action!

I'm Tom Valentine, this is *Radio Free America*.

[...commercial break...]

We are back, live, and I am just "all ears", listening to Sherman
Skolnick of the Committee to Clean Up the Courts, talking about
this behavior of the people near Joliet, Illinois -- just south
of Chicago. They've got a big state pen there, a very famous
prison, in Joliet. And, go ahead, Sherman.


SKOLNICK:
The attorney for PIC, the Private Industry Council (it's a
misleading name, because they were actually a repository of
federal loan records) -- the attorney for that, who we feel
covered it up, was Edward Masters, who today is the chief judge
of the Will County Circuit Court [CN -- Will County is adjacent
to Cook County; Chicago is in Cook County and Joliet is in Will
County]. And law enforcement people have told us that he is
involved with this "China White" dope rackets. O.K., now...


VALENTINE:
That's nice. He's now a judge.


SKOLNICK:
*Chief* judge!


VALENTINE:
That's good cover, yeah. Chief judge, O.K.

Whatever happened to Dan Webb, though? Robert Teezak... You said
that Dan Webb not only was a U.S. attorney, but he represented
somebody privately?


SKOLNICK:
Yeah, Teezak!


VALENTINE:
Huh!


SKOLNICK:
The one that burned the building down.

O.K. Now, according to a headline story, December 5th, 1987, in
the [Chicago] *Tribune*, it says here that the fire (with a
picture of the building) was investigated by the federal Bureau
of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, and that they suspected arson.
But they didn't proceed on the thing! And six years later,
because of all these other things, Teezak, a close buddy of Bush
and all these people that are involved in these dope shipments --
he [Teezak] suddenly confesses that *he* burned it down, and away
to jail he goes to cover up the thing.


VALENTINE:
Yeah! He's gotta go play golf at one of those country club
prisons, and he takes the fall.


SKOLNICK:
O.K. Now, as to how the money was "washed": it was a complicated
thing, and I will do my best to try to make it simplified.

Some of the money was "washed" disguised as auto loan paper,
which went to support a company that has become one of the major
credit card and bank operations in the United States. And that's
Household International. And their units are Household Bank. And
they reportedly were the beneficiary of this dope money that,
that is, the *proceeds* of the dope money -- the dope that was
coming in turned into cash, $100 bills...


VALENTINE:
Um-hmm [understands].


SKOLNICK:
..and ended up, reportedly, with them.


VALENTINE:
And if Household [International] comes screaming because you're
saying this publicly on the radio, you'll lay the paperwork that
the people have received from the Treasury [Department unit] on
them.


SKOLNICK:
Right. No I've confronted them in court already. I've... This
radio program I'm doing with you is the first public program. In
a few days, we're gonna do our popular cable TV show; we're gonna
do a 1-hour show about this and we're gonna show some of the
documents.


VALENTINE:
What channel is that on, in Chicago?


SKOLNICK:
It's channel 21, cable, in Chicago. Chicago Cable and Prime
Cable.


VALENTINE:
All right.


SKOLNICK:
And on Monday nights we outpoll, by the way, three commercial
stations here. Because we have about half-a-million viewers.

But the point of the matter is, we know how the apparatus worked.
It worked through Household International. It worked through
loaning SBA money, Small Business Administration money -- and the
records were in the PIC Building -- to companies that were not
creditworthy; that is, they were scams! They quickly thereafter
went into bankruptcy. And there was a cover-up through the help
of a federal bankruptcy judge from Chicago who was sent twice a
month to Joliet to sit in their small federal building to hear
these cases. The judge's wife was an assistant U.S. attorney
under Webb, in charge of SBA loans. You understand how this was
all...


VALENTINE:
Yeah! There's a lot of nepotism in this corruption at the top!


SKOLNICK:
Now wait a minute. The U.S. bankruptcy trustee for the Joliet
district is John E. Gearham. He is a close crony of first lady
Hillary Rodham Clinton. In January of this year, in the presence
of a witness, I obtained the confession of Mr. Gearham. He
contends that he is going to be the fall guy in a series of
tremendous scandals also involving Madison Guaranty S&L, the...


VALENTINE:
All right, hold it there! Sherman Skolnick, my guest. You're on
the edge of your seats, as I am. We'll be back. I'm Tom
Valentine, this is *Radio Free America*.

[...commercial break...]

O.K. We are back, live, Sherman Skolnick is my guest. And we're
talking about a scam, a drug/money-laundering scam involving
officials: local, state, and even federal officials. Go ahead,
Sherman.


SKOLNICK:
Let me explain to those who may not know. "China White" is the
name for a superior narcotic, a high-purity opium, that makes,
that is used to make a type of heroin that they can use without a
needle. And it is coming to be a desirable by...


VALENTINE:
Yeah, you can even snort it! Like cocaine, huh?


SKOLNICK:
Exactly. Now, the point is, I was describing, first of all, why
the espionage agencies supposedly had a rationale to close down
the Treasury [Department unit] investigation: because the traffic
was being facilitated by members, high-level members, of the
Chinese secret police that are in this country disguised as
scientists and lab technicians.

The apparatus that was used, to "wash" the tremendous sums of
money, were local development authorities, fake real estate
companies, fraudulent auto loan paper... also, three institutes
that supposedly were training minority and other persons for
other types of work. Also they were disguised as Small Business
Administration loans, Housing and Urban Development-supported
loans, subsidies from the U.S. Labor Department -- those records
were in the PIC Building when it was burned down.

Now as I said, Anton R. Valukis, the U.S. attorney at the time
and a close crony of Bush and the people that were involved here,
did not proceed to investigate that obstruction of justice; that
is, the obstructing of the grand jury subpoena directed against
the records in that building! Nor did he make any effort to
reconstruct the records through duplicates that were available
through the various banks that were "washing" the dope money.


TOM VALENTINE:
O.K. That sounds a lot like that BCCI fire that we talked about
once before.


SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Yes, that's right. That's about the size of it.

Now as to what was involved here: very substantial citizens from
areas south of Chicago contacted the topmost officials of the
DEA, the Drug Enforcement Administration, and complained about
the strange goings-on past Moose Island. And what they got... And
they complained to Anton R. Valukis himself! And what they got in
return, instead of any remedy, were serious threats of bodily
harm against themselves and their family. These are not dopers or
ex-convicts that were complaining, these were fine, upstanding
citizens. And they got no remedy. In fact they got threats.

Now we have been, ourselves, investigating the situation for four
years. And when we became aware that the Treasury [Department]
unit, who were bitter and disgruntled at being, uh, attempts to
stop them...


VALENTINE:
Yeah, that's called the "stand down". They're told that they have
to stand down.


SKOLNICK:
Well, their way of "standing down" was to deliver a *truckload*
of their original documents, in their own handwriting, to [an]
independent investigating group. We made a summary of those
records, and, as I said, we confronted the head of the "task
force".

By the way, the head of the "task force" that we confronted on
March... On October 6, '94, previously was a White House aide in
the Bush administration and a close crony of George Herbert
Walker Bush.

Law enforcement people, and others, that are aware of what's
involved here, believe that Bush himself is involved. As to who
we directly *know* is involved, it's the former Governor here,
Jim Thompson (he was the Governor of Illinois for 14 years), two
of his cronies who were the chief federal prosecutors -- Dan K.
Webb, from '81 to '85; and from '86 to '90 was Anton R. Valukis.
Also, Fred Foreman(sp?), who was the chief federal prosecutor in
this district, covered it up. *And*, as I said, at the meeting
October 6th was the secretary to the *current* chief federal
prosecutor, who is Jim Burns(sp?). I mean, we met in this office
in the federal building here, and as I said -- after 35 minutes,
the chief of the "task force", Mark Prosperi, got up [and] told
me he's not interested. I summarized all that I've just
summarized for your listeners. I offered witnesses and
documentation. He said he's not interested, and in so many words,
went out the door telling me I should mind my own business! Well
I head up, for more than 30 years, a public interest citizens
group. And we have exposed a great deal of corruption -- not from
a political standpoint; that is, not to favor one political party
over the other, but in the public interest. And we do it on our
cable show, and we've done it on your show in the past, as you
know, Tom.


VALENTINE:
That's right.


SKOLNICK:
I should have felt insulted on behalf of the public, that he felt
that it was not our business to be stickin', to be goin' into
this stuff! This is, this dope traffic that I'm describing --
with "China White" coming in, south of Chicago -- is, for all we
know, a bigger operation than what was coming in to the Mena,
Arkansas airport. And *now*, the *Wall Street Journal* (as I
mentioned) belatedly calls it "The Mena Cover-up". (That was
October 18th, the big story in the *Wall Street Journal*.)

I challenge the DEA, or the ATF (that supposedly investigated the
burning down of the building), *or* the U.S. attorney, *or* the
Justice Department, to *finally*, once and for all, do something.


VALENTINE:
All right. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. If you'd like to call
in, if you'd like to chime in with something, 1-800-878-8255. We
will take your call. You can talk to Sherman.

I'm Tom Valentine. This is *Radio Free America*.

[...commercial break...]

All right, we are back live on *Radio Free America*. We're
chatting with Sherman Skolnick. He's uncovered an investigation,
a long-term investigation, that's been going on up in [the]
Chicago area, near Joliet.

And as you've been hearing, we've got John in Syracuse, New York.
You're on with Sherman. Come ahead, John.


JOHN:
Yes, hi. I used to be stationed, Tom (I never told you this; I've
told you some of the places) -- but I used to be stationed in
Glenview, Illinois.


VALENTINE:
O.K. At the naval air station there. Yeah.


JOHN:
..naval air station, which has recently been shut down. It's
been sold back to the city of Glenview. Everything's been moved
out of that area, and all the airplanes have been transferred out
to the east coast. Just as I was retiring, I had moved some of
the airplanes out of that area.

But I had a question for your guest that, on all of the stuff
that's gone on in this investigation, how has it been that these
agencies aren't talking to each other in this investigation?


SKOLNICK:
I can give a simplistic answer. Because of the Whitewater affair,
there is a horrendous fight between the Treasury and the Justice
Department. The Treasury [Department] wants to come out with
investigative records showing that the Clinton White House is
highly corrupt, going back to the time that Clinton was Governor
and covered up the Mena, Arkansas thing. The Justice Department,
under Janet Reno, wants to continue the cover-up because of the
complications of the strange death of Vincent Foster.


VALENTINE:
Now this is the, this is the Treasury Department bureaucrats. Not
necessarily Lloyd Bentsen [Secretary of the Treasury].


SKOLNICK:
Right.

Bentsen himself was involved in the CIA and the S&L scandal,
according to Pete Brewton's book, *The Mafia, the CIA, and George
Bush*.


VALENTINE:
Yes.


SKOLNICK:
So we've got a Secretary of the Treasury that's *far* less than
an angel. I've never accused him of being honest, let's put it
that way.

But the point here is that the Treasury [Department], at least
the *unit* -- *tried*. And they've gone to substantial risk, to
allow their office to be cleaned out; put onto a truck all their
notebooks and performance files and delivered into the hands of
private citizens that are making this public. I mean...


VALENTINE:
This has happened, this has happened to you before, Sherman. Uh,
go ahead, John. Is there something else you want to get in on?


JOHN:
Well, yeah. There was one more thing.

Sarah McLendon(sp?) the other day, Tom, in a news conference,
asked Bill Clinton when Mena, Arkansas went down and there was
drugs bein' smuggled in there, why didn't the state of Arkansas,
when he was a Governor, hold an investigation of what was goin'
on there. He blew it off, he blew off the question, and said to
her, back to her, "Oh, the federal boys were in here doin' all
this. And I didn't get involved. All I did was some background
checks." And he left it at that. But he said that he knew that
there was something going on at the Mena airport. You know, Mr.
Skolnick, some of this ties together. And I think some of this
stuff has to be tied in, before we can ever press forward on it.


SKOLNICK:
Sarah McLendon's question to Clinton was not picked up by any of
the major press that was at the press conference. The first
mention of it was, just briefly, in this story "Mena Cover-up" in
the *Wall Street Journal*, October 18th. But the *Washington
Post*, the *New York Times*, and all the major papers, pretended
that there was no such question put to Clinton -- which was very
revealing. Some people feel that Clinton, as Governor, ordered
the State Police to look the other way, regarding the dope coming
in *there*.

Now the question is, is it the Clinton White House and the
Clinton Justice Department ordering various people to look the
other way now that the dope transit point has been switched from
the Mena, Arkansas area and is just south of Chicago, in Joliet?
I mean, there's a vast cover-up in the works! And as I said, very
substantial citizens have complained to the DEA and the Justice
Department. And instead of any remedy, they got threats of death
and so on!

So there's a vast cover-up in the works. And one of those that
was involved in the overall thing was this John E. Gearham who is
a close crony -- from Park Ridge (which is a northwest suburb of
Chicago) -- a close crony of first lady Hillary. And it is now...
His confession, that relates to this, which I took down in the
presence of a witness, is now in the federal court record here in
Chicago. (None of the newspapers refer to it.) And he said that
he is gonna be made a "fall guy" [i.e., offered up as a
sacrifice; a scapegoat for others' guilt] for this overall
Clinton administration group of scandals. (The only one
[newspaper] that went into it big was, by the way, a major German
paper in Hamburg, the Hamburg *Obleiden*(?). I mean, where is the
mass media!?)


TOM VALENTINE:
That's a good question.

As you can see, John, this is a bi-partisan corruption.


JOHN:
Yes, they're both hooked together, Tom. I agree with you. And I
think that's why the media is afraid of it, 'cause it somehow
drags Bush into it, along with Clinton.

And Mr. Skolnick, there: I think he's just about ready, if I was
to play my cards right, to "go for the jugular" on Clinton before
they all get away at the same time, Mr. Skolnick.


VALENTINE:
We're tryin'. And I thank you for the call, John.


SKOLNICK:
Before we run out of time, Tom, let me just take a moment to tell
your listeners how they can keep updated on our...


VALENTINE:
Yes! Please do. We've got plenty of time. Take your time, and
tell 'em. You have a telephone call-in line that people can
listen to the message.


SKOLNICK:
Right. It's a regular phone number; it's not an expensive call.
You can call late at night, for example, when it's cheaper to do
so. 731-1100. And that's Chicago, that's 312 area code. 731-1100,
in Chicago. It's a five minute recorded message, and we put our
disclosures on that -- usually as a 5-minute summary of our 1-
hour television show is usually on that recorded message, which
runs 24 hours a day. We change it about 2 or 3 times a week. And
your listeners can keep updated on things that they may not be
able to read anywhere else. They may read it eventually in
*Spotlight*, but not anywhere else!


VALENTINE:
That's right. If you folks want to, you call area code 312-731-
1100. And that's the Committee to Clean Up the Courts hotline.
You can get the information; they change it several times a week;
and you can call. It's 312-731-1100. I'm Tom Valentine. This is
*Radio Free America*.

[...commercial break...]

All right, we are back, live. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. And
you know, Sherman, I think the important message here -- and it's
one that you have brought to me several times -- is that there
are indeed some good Americans working for the government.


SKOLNICK:
Absolutely.


VALENTINE:
And they get frustrated, and then they come to people like you.
Remember? They came with the Jesse Jackson thing, that nobody
would touch?


SKOLNICK:
And the only newspaper in the country that would run it was
*Spotlight*.


VALENTINE:
That's right. That's one that, one of these days, we'll have to
tell everybody all over again, that story.


SKOLNICK:
Before the time runs out, let me put in another important detail.


VALENTINE:
Sure.


SKOLNICK:
According to what is known, part of the "China White" dope money
was washed through Household International, which is
headquartered in a northwest suburb of Chicago. People may not
know, but Household International is purportedly the successor to
the CIA-linked Nugan-Hand Bank of Australia. As to what the
Nugan-Hand Bank was like, there's a whole book about it called
*The Crimes of Patriots*, by Jonathon Kwitny(sp?). Household
International is the successor to that, so they come into the
picture naturally, doing what they are apparently doing.


VALENTINE:
In other words, they're a CIA proprietary.


SKOLNICK:
Well, they took over as a CIA proprietary, let's put it that way.
They took over what was left of the Nugan-Hand Bank. And they're
operating in Prospect Heights, which is a northwest suburb [of
Chicago].

The point is, notice what's involved here: the former President,
George Bush; former Illinois Governor, Jim Thompson; two of their
closest cronies who were, themselves, each chief federal
prosecutors here. The one that's covering it up is a Bush crony,
Mark Prosperi, the head of the organized crime/drug enforcement
"task force". The one that was involved as the attorney for the
PIC, the Private Industry Council where the records were all
burned down, is now the chief judge in Joliet. I mean, we've got
judges -- state, federal -- congressmen. At the time they sent
Teezak to jail, there was no inquiry made into his worldwide
money laundry operation that he ran under the name International
Games, Incorporated, Joliet and the Grand Caymans. There was no
investigation of the obstruction of the grand jury by the burning
down of the building! There was no investigation, as known to the
highest level of the government, of the secret bank accounts
known to the Treasury [Department] unit and the banks involved in
Chicago and south of Chicago and west of Chicago that were
involved in "washing" the "China White". And I don't know, I
mean, was the drug, is the drug flow to be allowed to come in,
simply because the CIA wants to keep track of high level members
of the Chinese secret police that are supposedly operating in the
United States and in charge...


VALENTINE:
Well I don't understand why the CIA's all uptight about that.
Congress is gonna bring a whole bunch of 'em over from Hong Kong
under the new "crime bill". So why's the CIA care!? [CN --
Valentine has erred here in not differentiating between the
Chinese from the People's Republic of China (PRC) and the Hong
Kong Chinese. There *is* a difference between secret agents from
PRC and police imported from Hong Kong.]


SKOLNICK:
What happened, in 1986 Jim Thompson went to China with all of
these same characters -- Teezak and his friends, Edward Masters,
who later became the chief judge, and so on. And it was at that
point that the "China White" situation was apparently nailed
down! And they disguised it as if a major soybean processing
plant was gonna be built in the Joliet area for the mainland
China. I mean, that was the disguise for Thompson at state tax
expense, going to China. But apparently, according to what the
Treasury [Department] unit contends, that was the time that they
really nailed down the importing of "China White" into this
country -- which has been such a great scourge! In fact, there's
a new book coming out, by Peter Maas(sp?)...


VALENTINE:
Yep. The [unclear]...


SKOLNICK:
.."China White"!


VALENTINE:
Yep!


SKOLNICK:
So that, I mean, they can't say that the top level of the
government doesn't know! I've done my part to confront the top
level of the government. Other substantial citizens have
confronted the top officials of the DEA. And the thing continues,
just as we talk! It hasn't stopped!


VALENTINE:
Well, we're gonna keep on talkin' about it. And we've got
corruption in high places. Sherman Skolnick, out of Chicago. That
telephone number to keep up with his work, 312-731-1100.

Sherman, thanks very much. We'll be seeing you again. Excellent
report.

All right folks, stay tuned. We've got another thing breakin' in
Indiana. We're gonna be covering that, shortly. I'll see ya right
after the news.


 Brian Francis Redman    [e-mail]    "The Big C"
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